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jedi_master Admin

Posts: 21 Join date: 2010-12-01 Location: uk
 | Subject: General fitting question's / and advice Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:10 pm | |
| if you have had a problem fitting, or come across anything, post you findings here!!
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The_cat
Posts: 9 Join date: 2010-12-10
 | Subject: fitting in the dark with the tripod light. Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| fitting in the dark with the tripod light.
this is my opinion is a bit silly
imagine if you took you car into kwik fit or even a main dealer for servicing and they had there lights turned off working in a dark workshop, tyres, exhaust or even brake pads being fitted holding a torch or a tri pod light, you would think is that safe, i'd ask can they see my wheel nuts, to put them on correctly, let alone my brake pad's,
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tambrath01

Posts: 32 Join date: 2010-12-11
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:35 pm | |
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techtechtech
Posts: 25 Join date: 2010-12-11
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:19 pm | |
| You are partly right with the dark issue but we have always done jobs in the dark, going back to the call out days. We did most things in the dark, some may be more tricky now but most can be done, everybody used to have torches, lights etc or maybe park your van so the big bright headlights shine on it??? Yes somebody will say how do you shine your headlights on it when using your canopy!!! But come on you cant have it all ways. |
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only-me
Posts: 18 Join date: 2010-12-07
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:17 pm | |
| i expect i will get banned for saying this but i think we have been kept in the dark for ages anyway so whats the problem |
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P.E.T.E.R. F.0.X
Posts: 90 Join date: 2011-01-21
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:20 pm | |
| Working in the dark...... because our competetors do! so if they go under, we will, if they jump off a brifge we will!! A.G can afford to put their peoples mistakes right, we can't! Fact. I consider myself to be a very good fitter, and if the screen is completley smashed up then, sure get the vehicle back on the road but no one would be touching my motor in the dark! I let the customer make the choice. risk assesment> add note > vehicle done in dark! P.S, converstion sometimes becomes very quiet and awkward with some customers while waiting for the PDA to load the next/print page  lol |
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johnboy
Posts: 1 Join date: 2011-02-08
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:48 pm | |
| just wondering how many fitters or call centre staff or anybody in this trade would have there screen fitted at 3am not many im sure i agree that most bodyglass and hrw are possible but surely screen are never that desprate to be done the reson the company is in such a state is due to bad managerment i left a while ago now but it use to be mint company but slowly but surely it has gone down the drain i fell sorry for all the good people that have been worn down hope things get better soon but cant see how |
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tonybear
Posts: 5 Join date: 2011-02-11
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:20 am | |
| i have been a night tech since the day they stopped call outs, i think the answer is no, it isnt perfect conditions to replace a windscreen in the dark, but it can be done, i think its something you just get used to, i have rigged 2 500watt worklamps as high up inside the side door area so if im standing in one lights path the other light allows me to see( unless you get the nosey customers who insist on having their nose 2 feet away from what you doing to their pride and joy, but a well aimed squirt of glass cleaner works a treat  ) all this being said, its the technician who is at the job, its the technician who has to tick the 'risk assesment' box so it the technicians big hairey arse thats in the cross hairs if it all goes wrong. the technician has the right to say no! i know your thinking that you will get slagged off for not doing the job, become a night tech its very well known we dont do anything and get slagged off all the time ,of course its not the fact that sometimes our glass hasnt been ordered, or the wrong piece has been ordered, or some of the people involved in organising our work do not ring the customers to confrim the booking ,we ring customers at start of shift and only have a mobile number thats switched off, and the job is at their home, but no home number, but we still have to attend the job, so we drive the hour or so to get to the address to try to wake the customer, who then rips us a new rear end as we were not expected. sorry if i wondered of point, but i dont have any issues fitting most windscreens in the dark ,as if i feel i cant do it to a good safe standard, i will not do it. |
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exedintech
Posts: 4 Join date: 2011-02-12
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:22 am | |
| hi i was tech in edinburgh for 12 years and have recently left to try new things, my solution to the work light problem was always to point the light AWAY from the area i was workin on, this may seam stupid but it gives a better light coverage and doesn't cause shadows getting in the way. if in an underground carpark pointing it up to the ceiling has a brilliant effect. Try it next time, the theory being if you bonunce the light of something it spreads the light better |
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AWfitter
Posts: 36 Join date: 2011-01-23
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:03 pm | |
| Any suggestions for taping the new screen in place at night during winter? I dont have much problem with using a lamp, ok you might need to move it occasionally, or try a few places at the start but its do-able.
Spoke to a manager during december who refused to rebook a screen at around 6pm in minus C temperature(yes Im aware the glue works in that temperature)......within a few seconds of putting the glass on a trestle there was a layer of mist on it, so you can imagine how well the tape would hold to that. Jep manager suggested cold weather procedure which is ok for the glass, but as a customer would your seriously want someone blasting your roof with a hot air gun to remove the moisture prior to lifting in a screen? |
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familyguy
Posts: 69 Join date: 2011-02-09
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:03 pm | |
| | AWfitter wrote: | Any suggestions for taping the new screen in place at night during winter? I dont have much problem with using a lamp, ok you might need to move it occasionally, or try a few places at the start but its do-able.
Spoke to a manager during december who refused to rebook a screen at around 6pm in minus C temperature(yes Im aware the glue works in that temperature)......within a few seconds of putting the glass on a trestle there was a layer of mist on it, so you can imagine how well the tape would hold to that. Jep manager suggested cold weather procedure which is ok for the glass, but as a customer would your seriously want someone blasting your roof with a hot air gun to remove the moisture prior to lifting in a screen? |
also had the same problems and some times the mist would freeze i started to use the suckers to hold the glass up to the roof and leave them on till your about to leave the job |
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AWfitter
Posts: 36 Join date: 2011-01-23
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:15 pm | |
| | familyguy wrote: | | AWfitter wrote: | Any suggestions for taping the new screen in place at night during winter? I dont have much problem with using a lamp, ok you might need to move it occasionally, or try a few places at the start but its do-able.
Spoke to a manager during december who refused to rebook a screen at around 6pm in minus C temperature(yes Im aware the glue works in that temperature)......within a few seconds of putting the glass on a trestle there was a layer of mist on it, so you can imagine how well the tape would hold to that. Jep manager suggested cold weather procedure which is ok for the glass, but as a customer would your seriously want someone blasting your roof with a hot air gun to remove the moisture prior to lifting in a screen? |
also had the same problems and some times the mist would freeze i started to use the suckers to hold the glass up to the roof and leave them on till your about to leave the job |
Thats ok with the new suckers which flex top and bottom, i have much older rigid blue suckers, the 1s from before the awfull green 1's. A year back it wouldnt be a problem to order a set of the new 1's, but nowadays its a different story. |
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tonybear
Posts: 5 Join date: 2011-02-11
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:09 pm | |
| im sure there was a memo to say not to use your suckers to hold windscreen instead of tape. think it causes damage, but without seeing it again i cant remember (getting old see) and if the glass and bodywork are that wet/icey, surely the suckers slip as well? i find it helps to turn the screen over, after putting primer,trims etc on, and then spray glass cleaner onto white roll, then clean and dry the area where i want to place the tape, after landing the screen, again use white roll with glass cleaner , to clean and dry the roof area where the tape will sit, the glass cleaner seems to help with drying the dampness on the surfaces. this obviously wont work in the extreme conditions, and thats where the old heat gun comes into play, just a bit of a pain the van inverters cant handle a work light and the heat gun at the same time. just check into that memo 1st, im sure ive seen one. |
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familyguy
Posts: 69 Join date: 2011-02-09
 | Subject: Re: General fitting question's / and advice Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:58 pm | |
| | tonybear wrote: | im sure there was a memo to say not to use your suckers to hold windscreen instead of tape. think it causes damage, but without seeing it again i cant remember (getting old see) and if the glass and bodywork are that wet/icey, surely the suckers slip as well? i find it helps to turn the screen over, after putting primer,trims etc on, and then spray glass cleaner onto white roll, then clean and dry the area where i want to place the tape, after landing the screen, again use white roll with glass cleaner , to clean and dry the roof area where the tape will sit, the glass cleaner seems to help with drying the dampness on the surfaces. this obviously wont work in the extreme conditions, and thats where the old heat gun comes into play, just a bit of a pain the van inverters cant handle a work light and the heat gun at the same time. just check into that memo 1st, im sure ive seen one. |
you are prob right mate their is 1 somewhere, but never mind i do it and their is prob other people out their that do stuff that there not ment to do |
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Lard-Ice-HOI
Posts: 3 Join date: 2011-02-08 Age: 86 Location: UK
 | Subject: true but we all know its a 24/hour service or shouls say was and took on trhe job knowing that we would be working in the dark dont know if you rember the good oldaye 3am call out fitting a windscreen i do but your correct wat about solo working Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:55 pm | |
| | The_cat wrote: | fitting in the dark with the tripod light.
this is my opinion is a bit silly
imagine if you took you car into kwik fit or even a main dealer for servicing and they had there lights turned off working in a dark workshop, tyres, exhaust or even brake pads being fitted holding a torch or a tri pod light, you would think is that safe, i'd ask can they see my wheel nuts, to put them on correctly, let alone my brake pad's, |
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